Symphonies 9 & 10 / Lied Von Der Erde (2pc)
ジャンル | Music Video & Concerts, Musicals & Performing Arts/Classical |
フォーマット | インポート |
コントリビュータ | Ren? Kollo, Leonard Bernstein, Humphrey Burton, Christa Ludwig |
言語 | ドイツ語 |
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- 製品サイズ : 1.78 x 19.05 x 13.72 cm; 83.16 g
- メーカー : Deutsche Grammophon
- EAN : 0044007340929
- SPARSコード : DDD
- レーベル : Deutsche Grammophon
- ASIN : B000AC5BFC
- ディスク枚数 : 2
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LASZLO VIOLA
5つ星のうち5.0
about this I can not find the right word to describe
2023年11月23日にカナダでレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Bernstein and the vocal soloists sure the full ensemble recreate the creation of the compositors! as I have the Bruno Walter recordings of the same Das Lied von der Erde I can not ever define for myself who of these two geniuses recreated the compositor's dream? and I never can define which is the better of the two contraltos Ludwig or Ferrier

zeddy
5つ星のうち5.0
Fabulous
2018年2月21日に英国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Fabulous. I have compared it with other recordings in my collection, by Haitink and by Karajan. Christa Ludwig in incomparable in her performance of the Song of the Earth. Bernstein is at his finest in his feel for and interpretation of Mahler, and it would be difficult to improve upon the quality of sound and picture of these recordings.

R. Mathes
5つ星のうち5.0
If you buy one Classical DVD this is the one you must own, literally.
2011年9月7日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
I admit that my review title drowns itself in hyperbole but I returned to this performance recently after forgetting about it for a number of years. Bernstein is, of course, one of music great figures but in recent years even his greatest admirers, including myself, have been forced to admit that as an interpreter he often was willful in the extreme and pushed pieces to their breaking point for his own personal or emotional reasons. Chief among his worst offenses in that regard were his late Dvorak Cello Concerto and New World Symphony, his Tchaikovsky 6th, his Sibelius 2nd, and one couldn't help but mention the famous Elgar Enigma Variations from the BBC Symphony. Rodney Friend, the concertmaster, said that it seemed the Nimrod Variation seemed to go backwards. All that said, when this man was at his best he left all in the dust. He could inspire a group of musicians like no other and the orchestras that played under him knew they were being conducted by one of the greatest musicians alive, master composer, pianist, thinker, teacher, and conductor. When he was on, you heard it in the results. His greatest Mahler performances had this in droves!
I love Mahler's 9th symphony as much as any piece of music ever written and there are so many great performances. For perfection, maybe the two Karajans are the greatest but somehow they're cold in a way. Both Rattles are very good. The Barbirolli is good but slightly out of date both sonically and playing wise. Haitink is strong as is the new Gergiev actually. I own so many: Barenboim, Boulez, Levine, Sinopoli, Nott, Zinman, Zander (excellent!), Abbado (his Berlin from 1999 is my top choice for a perfect recommendable version for one learning the piece). There are many also rans and just plain solid recordings. Some beautiful historic ones like Walter and Horenstein. At the end of the day for me, somehow Bernstein owns this piece and yet there is no real concrete evidence of it because there is no one recording that proved it, at least that was my view a number of years ago.
Each of Bernstein's five existing recordings (including the bootleg Boston Tanglewood 1979 recording) leaves something to be desired. The early 1965 New York Philharmonic recording is very good but it is his first and for anyone that knows this film he does not have the piece in his bones with near the same degree of intensity that he does a mere six years later when this video was filmed in 1971. The next performance was this and for years I looked at this video through the prism of the later Berlin and Concertgebouw performances. Those later performances are absolutely extraordinary though they are both flawed in certain ways and extreme. Neither are the essential Mahler 9 but in none of the supposed top recommendable Mahler 9s i.e. Karajan, Abbado, Walter or Rattle do any of the conductors come close to scaling the intense emotional heights that this man achieves (will anybody ever again????). In Berlin in 1979 Leonard Bernstein was allowed to conduct Herbert Von Karajan's orchestra twice in Mahler's 9th Symphony. They recorded the first performance which is now legendary and was released posthumously. Famously in the last movement the Trombones (the whole section!) missed an entry and their biggest moment in the entire work. No matter, it is still a landmark recording of this work and yet with all sorts of ragged moments it can't be said to be a top recommendation. To not hear it would be a sad thing though and my life would be much poorer for the lack thereof. The Boston Symphony bootleg from three months earlier at Tanglewood is not a patch on the Berlin, just a preparation for that reading though it is always great to hear Bernstein conduct this piece.
The Concertgebouw performance from 1985 is saddled with four major problems:
1. A 1st Trumpet player with such a wide vibrato you could drive a truck through it and a microphone that clearly died in the process. He sounds awful.
2. A Third Movement where Bernstein pushes the orchestra to a point where they almost topple over. He always did the Rondo Burleske this way and yet in Berlin though it starts rough it ends like an air show; amazing! With the Vienna Phil it's slightly rickety riding but absolutely thrilling. In Amsterdam it nearly goes off the rails and it's not pretty at all and this was supposedly his last fully digital view on the piece. Eeeks.
3. Poor recording quality all around. Something is awry. 1985 is still early digitally. DG got it right a number of years later. Their 4D sound was wonderful and even by the time they had recorded Bernstein's Resurrection with the New York Philharmonic in Avery Fisher Hall in 1987 DG's recording was magnificent but at the Grote Zaal in 1985 they did not have it right.
4. The fourth movement, that incredible Adagio, which Bernstein just lives for, is performed with a remarkable intensity but by the end it is so pulseless that it is almost absurd. The end becomes almost an exercise in stasis. I remember listening to it once and thinking, "Is he actually doing this on a dare??" I admit that another time I listened to it and was both moved and somewhat astonished at his guts but when he goes from 23 minutes in New York to 26 in Berlin and Vienna to THIRTY in Amsterdam you have to wonder.
Still, in Amsterdam the first movement, which is easily the greatest single symphonic movement Mahler ever wrote structurally, has never been better. Heartbreaking, extraordinary, a world and a symphony in and of itself. The best Bernstein ever perhaps is that Concertgebouw Mahler 9 first movement. (I am serious.)
That brings us back to Vienna. Why do I come here tonight to this DVD page at Amazon and spend so much time rhapsodically preaching about this DVD. It is because I have been watching the new Abbado Lucerne performance of Mahler's 9th which has been hailed around the world as the greatest Mahler 9 of all time. That extraordinary orchestra made up of leading players from the Berlin and Vienna Philharmonics and from leading Soloists all around the world who come to play for their great leader Claudio Abbado, frail and struck down in recent years by health issues who knows this score, his beloved 9th, better than any other conductor alive, who identifies with it as well perhaps as anyone since, yes........Leonard Bernstein. A well nigh perfect performance of the score, conducted by memory with an Adagio of intense feeling followed by close to three minutes of silence and the final incandescent page in half light on the stage. What could possibly be more moving than that??? This surely is the great Mahler 9. I have seen all the new Abbado performances with Lucerne. They are indeed remarkable. Way more detailed and exacting than the Bernstein Mahler. He is in every letter and jotting that Mahler wrote according to the score. I am sure that Mahler would have Abbado over for dinner and would likely penalize Bernstein for too much dilly dallying.............................and..................yet................................
Well...it sure is close to the greatest Mahler 9 ever. Is it surely the best played but then there is this one. A few things about Lucerne: The main theme returned in Abbado's first movement about 20 minutes in and it was lovely but just that. Lovely. The final Violin solo of the first movement came and the held horns in the 6/4 bar came that seem to hang in mid air. Lovely? Yes. Beautiful? Yes. Well played? Absolutely. What Mahler wrote? Amen!
Something was missing though ------------------------------I went down to my music room, past the scores and books and pulled out this video and put it on for the first time in a number of years. All those moments happened and they were all transforming moments. Not just lovely or beautiful but tragic, moving, emotional, nostalgic, yearning, evocative. It made me reflective. The music became more than music.
Now....that is MAHLER's 9TH SYMPHONY!
I am now convinced that this is easily one of the greatest performances you will ever see of any piece and that my limited view of it was because I looked at it as being not as moving as Bernstein in Berlin and Amsterdam, not as go-for-broke. The fact is that it is actually between the dry eyed and very faithful Abbado and Karajan school and the late Bernstein ultra subjective hyper emotional school. It is actually in the middle ground. The ultimate and best place to be. Emotional, intense but still deeply intelligent and not losing the forest for the trees. Bernstein the extraordinary musician living alongside Bernstein the great intellect and Bernstein the man of soul and emotion. All this serving his great love, the music of Gustav Mahler. Get this DVD NOW! Also buy the Abbado because it surely is the closest you'll get to the perfect Mahler Nine but in terms of legendary, iconic and great and timeless, this is the one!
I love Mahler's 9th symphony as much as any piece of music ever written and there are so many great performances. For perfection, maybe the two Karajans are the greatest but somehow they're cold in a way. Both Rattles are very good. The Barbirolli is good but slightly out of date both sonically and playing wise. Haitink is strong as is the new Gergiev actually. I own so many: Barenboim, Boulez, Levine, Sinopoli, Nott, Zinman, Zander (excellent!), Abbado (his Berlin from 1999 is my top choice for a perfect recommendable version for one learning the piece). There are many also rans and just plain solid recordings. Some beautiful historic ones like Walter and Horenstein. At the end of the day for me, somehow Bernstein owns this piece and yet there is no real concrete evidence of it because there is no one recording that proved it, at least that was my view a number of years ago.
Each of Bernstein's five existing recordings (including the bootleg Boston Tanglewood 1979 recording) leaves something to be desired. The early 1965 New York Philharmonic recording is very good but it is his first and for anyone that knows this film he does not have the piece in his bones with near the same degree of intensity that he does a mere six years later when this video was filmed in 1971. The next performance was this and for years I looked at this video through the prism of the later Berlin and Concertgebouw performances. Those later performances are absolutely extraordinary though they are both flawed in certain ways and extreme. Neither are the essential Mahler 9 but in none of the supposed top recommendable Mahler 9s i.e. Karajan, Abbado, Walter or Rattle do any of the conductors come close to scaling the intense emotional heights that this man achieves (will anybody ever again????). In Berlin in 1979 Leonard Bernstein was allowed to conduct Herbert Von Karajan's orchestra twice in Mahler's 9th Symphony. They recorded the first performance which is now legendary and was released posthumously. Famously in the last movement the Trombones (the whole section!) missed an entry and their biggest moment in the entire work. No matter, it is still a landmark recording of this work and yet with all sorts of ragged moments it can't be said to be a top recommendation. To not hear it would be a sad thing though and my life would be much poorer for the lack thereof. The Boston Symphony bootleg from three months earlier at Tanglewood is not a patch on the Berlin, just a preparation for that reading though it is always great to hear Bernstein conduct this piece.
The Concertgebouw performance from 1985 is saddled with four major problems:
1. A 1st Trumpet player with such a wide vibrato you could drive a truck through it and a microphone that clearly died in the process. He sounds awful.
2. A Third Movement where Bernstein pushes the orchestra to a point where they almost topple over. He always did the Rondo Burleske this way and yet in Berlin though it starts rough it ends like an air show; amazing! With the Vienna Phil it's slightly rickety riding but absolutely thrilling. In Amsterdam it nearly goes off the rails and it's not pretty at all and this was supposedly his last fully digital view on the piece. Eeeks.
3. Poor recording quality all around. Something is awry. 1985 is still early digitally. DG got it right a number of years later. Their 4D sound was wonderful and even by the time they had recorded Bernstein's Resurrection with the New York Philharmonic in Avery Fisher Hall in 1987 DG's recording was magnificent but at the Grote Zaal in 1985 they did not have it right.
4. The fourth movement, that incredible Adagio, which Bernstein just lives for, is performed with a remarkable intensity but by the end it is so pulseless that it is almost absurd. The end becomes almost an exercise in stasis. I remember listening to it once and thinking, "Is he actually doing this on a dare??" I admit that another time I listened to it and was both moved and somewhat astonished at his guts but when he goes from 23 minutes in New York to 26 in Berlin and Vienna to THIRTY in Amsterdam you have to wonder.
Still, in Amsterdam the first movement, which is easily the greatest single symphonic movement Mahler ever wrote structurally, has never been better. Heartbreaking, extraordinary, a world and a symphony in and of itself. The best Bernstein ever perhaps is that Concertgebouw Mahler 9 first movement. (I am serious.)
That brings us back to Vienna. Why do I come here tonight to this DVD page at Amazon and spend so much time rhapsodically preaching about this DVD. It is because I have been watching the new Abbado Lucerne performance of Mahler's 9th which has been hailed around the world as the greatest Mahler 9 of all time. That extraordinary orchestra made up of leading players from the Berlin and Vienna Philharmonics and from leading Soloists all around the world who come to play for their great leader Claudio Abbado, frail and struck down in recent years by health issues who knows this score, his beloved 9th, better than any other conductor alive, who identifies with it as well perhaps as anyone since, yes........Leonard Bernstein. A well nigh perfect performance of the score, conducted by memory with an Adagio of intense feeling followed by close to three minutes of silence and the final incandescent page in half light on the stage. What could possibly be more moving than that??? This surely is the great Mahler 9. I have seen all the new Abbado performances with Lucerne. They are indeed remarkable. Way more detailed and exacting than the Bernstein Mahler. He is in every letter and jotting that Mahler wrote according to the score. I am sure that Mahler would have Abbado over for dinner and would likely penalize Bernstein for too much dilly dallying.............................and..................yet................................
Well...it sure is close to the greatest Mahler 9 ever. Is it surely the best played but then there is this one. A few things about Lucerne: The main theme returned in Abbado's first movement about 20 minutes in and it was lovely but just that. Lovely. The final Violin solo of the first movement came and the held horns in the 6/4 bar came that seem to hang in mid air. Lovely? Yes. Beautiful? Yes. Well played? Absolutely. What Mahler wrote? Amen!
Something was missing though ------------------------------I went down to my music room, past the scores and books and pulled out this video and put it on for the first time in a number of years. All those moments happened and they were all transforming moments. Not just lovely or beautiful but tragic, moving, emotional, nostalgic, yearning, evocative. It made me reflective. The music became more than music.
Now....that is MAHLER's 9TH SYMPHONY!
I am now convinced that this is easily one of the greatest performances you will ever see of any piece and that my limited view of it was because I looked at it as being not as moving as Bernstein in Berlin and Amsterdam, not as go-for-broke. The fact is that it is actually between the dry eyed and very faithful Abbado and Karajan school and the late Bernstein ultra subjective hyper emotional school. It is actually in the middle ground. The ultimate and best place to be. Emotional, intense but still deeply intelligent and not losing the forest for the trees. Bernstein the extraordinary musician living alongside Bernstein the great intellect and Bernstein the man of soul and emotion. All this serving his great love, the music of Gustav Mahler. Get this DVD NOW! Also buy the Abbado because it surely is the closest you'll get to the perfect Mahler Nine but in terms of legendary, iconic and great and timeless, this is the one!

Media Scribe
5つ星のうち4.0
Mahler Symphonies DVD - Bernstein
2017年1月21日に英国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
These symphonies are a challenge to the Mahler fan since they concentrate so much on aspects of death and it's only the greatness of the music that persuades me to experience them. Not at all simple to understand but there are rewards for the steadfast listener. Of course, the excellence of the singers and orchestras under the commanding baton of Bernstein means the symphonies are always expertly performed. Seeing the performers as well as hearing them is of considerable advantage since you are able to see the unrestrained emotion of Leonard Bernstein at the various key passages. In the 'Song of the Earth' much is added by the wonderful singing of Christa Ludwig and Rene Kollo.

David Webb
5つ星のうち5.0
Christa Ludwig and Leonard Bernstein turn Longing into Dreaming
2016年4月21日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
The Song of the Earth (Das Lied von der Erde), his Symphony #9 and the Adagio from his unfinished 10th symphony are somewhat of an acquired taste but they are transcendentally satisfying. These were composed after the death of his daughter, and the diagnosis of his serious and ultimately fatal heart defect. Thus, death is a pervasive element in these works but it is not triumphant! Seeing them performed under Leonard Bernstein's direction makes them truly come alive. Christa Ludwig's performance in Das Lied is astoundingly rich and glorious. Rene Kollo also excels in this epic recording with the Israel Philharmonic. Mahler set German translations of ancient Chinese poems into a symphonic song cycle. The subtitles give the text full effect with the music. The final song (the Farewell) is full of longing and breathtaking beauty. I heartily recommend Richard Strauss's Four Last Songs which also deal with the autumn of life.
His 9th symphony suggests a man who knows he is dying, but who aches for life to continue. The first three movements are angular, and at times disassemble into visions of a soul wandering in Hades. The final movement is a rich Adagio that brings a resolution to the challenges of the preceding ones. It reminds me of the final adagio from his 3rd symphony (What Love Tells Me). He stretches the boundaries of 19th century music but he brings the listener back home time and again. It reminds me of a butterfly slowly emerging from a chrysalis.
Mahler's symphony #10 was never completed, However, its Adagio was. It has all the hallmarks of his many splendid adagios, and ends with a gentle, slightly discordant ladder to musical heaven. Some think that it presages later 20th century music, but it is among Mahler's most accessible music. It is an interesting coincidence that Bruckner and Mahler's symphonic outputs ended with great adagios, as both authored incredible adagios throughout their careers.
I own CDs of these works but seeing them performed is enormously illuminating and gratifying. The audio is superb as rendered by the 4 speakers attached to my stereo receiver.
His 9th symphony suggests a man who knows he is dying, but who aches for life to continue. The first three movements are angular, and at times disassemble into visions of a soul wandering in Hades. The final movement is a rich Adagio that brings a resolution to the challenges of the preceding ones. It reminds me of the final adagio from his 3rd symphony (What Love Tells Me). He stretches the boundaries of 19th century music but he brings the listener back home time and again. It reminds me of a butterfly slowly emerging from a chrysalis.
Mahler's symphony #10 was never completed, However, its Adagio was. It has all the hallmarks of his many splendid adagios, and ends with a gentle, slightly discordant ladder to musical heaven. Some think that it presages later 20th century music, but it is among Mahler's most accessible music. It is an interesting coincidence that Bruckner and Mahler's symphonic outputs ended with great adagios, as both authored incredible adagios throughout their careers.
I own CDs of these works but seeing them performed is enormously illuminating and gratifying. The audio is superb as rendered by the 4 speakers attached to my stereo receiver.