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ブルックナー:交響曲第4番「ロマンティック」(1874年原典版)(ハンブルク・フィル/ヤング)

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  • 梱包サイズ ‏ : ‎ 14.2 x 5.6 x 1 cm; 113.4 g
  • メーカー ‏ : ‎ Oehms
  • EAN ‏ : ‎ 4260034866294
  • レーベル ‏ : ‎ Oehms
  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0019OOJ3K
  • ディスク枚数 ‏ : ‎ 1
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D. Pyle
5つ星のうち5.0 Conductor draws out the complexity, harmonies and balance often missed in the 4th
2022年8月15日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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After Bruckner's 2nd, his symphonies seem (to me) to grow more regal and horn-heavy. My favorite Bruckner is the 2nd Symphony, which is more nuanced, complex with interweaving of harmonies and layers of sound... an approach Bruckner increasingly abandons in later symphonies, which seem to me to grow thematically simpler and ... at too many times, suddenly loud. Reading reviews, I notice there are many fans of the exciting (?) horn-heavy symphonies, but as they say: "tomato, toemahtoh"... different tastes.

In this CD release, I very much appreciate conductor Simone Young's even-handedness in balancing horns in good proportion with the harmonies. Too many performances use the horns as exclamation points, rather than as integral with the harmonies and melodies. I think Young strikes the right balance here. Her approach with the Philharmoniker Hamburg is notably different, worth a listen even by fans of the noisy later Bruckner symphonies, just to hear her distinct take on this popular (with everyone else!) Bruckner, and in this more rarely heard early version.

Striking this tonal balance is particularly challenging with Bruckner's 4th, as it starts right off with a series of 5 two-note horn blasts... Here, they are gently introduced, more as a musical theme than a regal proclamation, as some performances seem to me to do. I'm not a fan of the 4th Symphony, for this reason, but I genuinely enjoy listening to this interpretation by Young and her version of the composition. For those who prefer loud trumpets and trombones and other brass, this still has them, but there is also much more exploration of the harmonies, and of the melodies hidden in chord progressions, which for me is a more interesting and enjoyable approach to Bruckner than I'm used to finding in symphonies after his 2nd. (My favorite recording of the Bruckner 2nd, by the way, is Bernard Haitink's early - 1969 - conducting of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, which I bought originally on Philips vinyl and can be had on the Decca CD / Blu Ray " Haitink / Concertgeuw 'The Complete Symphonies/Te Deum' "collection of Bruckner.)

Though not really a fan of Bruckner past his almost cinematic (pre-cinema of course) 2nd Symphony - still, I find myself collecting versions anyway - Jochum, Haitink, Young - in search of gems like this one. I can say I truly enjoy listening to Young's interpretation in this release, of the this less-played and more rarely heard early version of Bruckner's 4th, and recommend it to anyone new or deeply familiar with Bruckner.
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Alan Roe
5つ星のうち5.0 Try this, it is not the 4th Symphony as you know it!
2018年1月9日に英国でレビュー済み
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A totally different version of the fourth symphony compared with the normal well-known version. This stands on it's own, like it were a separate symphony. I have this version (1874) by Inbal and this new version is superb by comparison. Well worth it
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Doc Henry
5つ星のうち5.0 Symphonie n°4 Anton Bruckner S Young et Philharmoniker de Hambourg
2012年11月30日にフランスでレビュー済み
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Que dire de cette version de Simone Young et de la Hamburg Philharmoniker (comme la n°8) : "époustouflante" version , quelle fougue et quel tempo , on reste admiratif devant tant de virtuosité, ça vous "rentre dans les tripes". J'ai écouté ,pour comparer , avant également en SACD , la version de Bernard Haitink et la London Symphony Orchestra ! cette version c'est celle que je préfère et l'enregistrement , parlons en , quel bel enregistrement et d'un point de vue technique, je donne 5/5 (sur un lecteur Pioneer SACD ) , le SACD nous rapproche du disque Vinyl avec sa douceur , tout en ayant une dynamique à vous couper le souffle (son pas dur et pas agressif comme l'écoute des CD classiques).
A recommander également si vous n'avez pas cette version SACD de ce grand chef ,belle dame , avec la Hamburg Philharmoniker ! ah une dernière chose, j'ai les autres symphonies de ce même chef (que je commenterai) ,j'ai presque l'intégrale de Bruckner par S Young , il me manque la 9 ! Bonne écoute à tous.
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Mark Edward Rendle Jeffrey
5つ星のうち5.0 Five Stars
2017年5月24日に英国でレビュー済み
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Excellent product worth waiting for
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Joseph Kline PhD, MD, MBA
5つ星のうち5.0 Superb interpretation of the inferior Original (1874) Version with superb sonics
2014年5月8日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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I have been impressed with several Bruckner symphony recordings made by Simone Young and the Hamburg Philharmonic Orchestra and her Symphony 4 is no exception and maybe her finest. Young uses the original edition of the score, so expect some major differences from versions more commonly used by conductors. Young is an superb conductor, becoming a superb Bruckner conductor, and as I have stated before, she may be the second coming of Karajan and Jochum – not there yet, but I can’t wait to hear her next Bruckner cycle with a few more years under her belt.

Young’s tempo in the 1st movement is slightly slower than that of most of our established great Bruckner interpreters except Celibidache who is always the caboose in such lists. The 2nd movement is played at the standard tempo and sounds heavenly. In Young’s 3rd and 4th movements, the version she uses sounds very different from what we usually hear. In fact, this 3rd movement was tossed out by Bruckner and replaced by a much improved Scherzo. As typical for Young, her interpretation embodies the essence of Bruckner depth and emotionality. Just as typically, she draws elegant playing from her Hamburg orchestra. For a regional orchestra, the Hamburg Philharmonic play with the precision and heart of any of your more familiar world-class ensembles, and they appear to be making a definite move towards such billing.

On a personal note, I far prefer the usual versions/edition that we hear in most recordings aside from Inbal. Although interesting from an historical perspective the original in my view compares unfavorably with Bruckner’s later (and better) musical thoughts for his symphonies each of which have greater melodic complexity, beauty, and musical flow. At least in the case of Bruckner, his original version needed to be revised. The usual rules for multiple choice exams -- that your first answer is more likely to be the correct one -- does not apply when it comes to Bruckner's symphonic compositions. I have not heard a numbered symphony yet when Bruckner's later revisions were not substantially more beautiful and flowing than his original. I really wish Simone Young felt the same way. Maybe she will in the future. One can only hope!

Sound on this disc is superb in both 2-channel stereo (I listened using headphones) and 2-channel SACD (I listened using loudspeakers) with the expected benefits of smoothness and depth of soundstage in the SACD playback. Instrumental timbres are natural with fine definition of the lower register. Listener perspective is somewhat close as it is in the other recordings of hers that I have heard. Young’s interpretation lacks the last bit of intensity found in Karajan, Jochum and Skrowaczewski, and she still cannot sustain the drama as well as those conductors.

We have a very different and to me less beautiful Symphony 4 with the last two movements VERY different. It is of some interest, but Bruckner’s revisions are far superior. Still, this is a fine performance of the original version such as it is. Unfortunately, Simone Young will not make a lot of friends with her insistence on using original versions. I guess I will have to wait for her second complete cycle for complete satisfaction. Recommended for musicologists and listeners interested in historical perspective.
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